"Protestants tried beating Catholic teen to death: A mother has described how a sectarian gang beat her son with a golf club, broke his skull, then tied wire around his neck and dragged him along a road. Niall Ferrin, 15, suffered hearing and sight loss and underwent surgery following the attack at a north Belfast interface on Friday night."
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Now, does asking me why Im catholic even though some preists sexually abused children still make sence? NO! blamming all for the actions of some is wrong, this post is just to see if you can understand that. Now lets see how many of you dont finish reading the question shall we?
Why do protestants continue the follow their religion when it preaches such hate?
People are placing too much value on their religion instead of their relationship in God. I doubt anyones salvation that would beat another to death because of differences.
However, Belfast Ireland is a hot spot for violence in relgious beliefs.
Just another of Satan's tactics to give God bad press in non-believers eyes. We are called to be strong in our faith ready with answers and slow to speak and anger.
My heart as a Christian in Christ Jesus aches to hear such things that goes on among religious groups and children who are so young and confused by those who hate.
Reply:No where in the Bible does the Bible teach hate. The Bible teaches that we are to love our neighbor as ourself and to not repay evil with evil.
Reply:Little Missy Kato,
I did finish reading your question. I always thoroughly read everything that is written before I answer any question. I am a Non-Denominational Christian and not a Protestant. We attempt to follow the teachings that are found in the Bible and have religious services that are like those of the First Century Christian's Church. I understand your feeling and you should also understand mine. The Catholic Church is NOT following the New Testament Teachings that are found in the Bible. I suggest that you spend some time studying them separate from your church members. Have a wonderful weekend and a glorious LORD'S DAY!.
Thanks,
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Reply:And lest not forget about Matthew Shepard who was beaten and left for dead for being a homosexual. Why do christians continue to follow their religion when it preaches intolerance and hatred as well?
And while I have read the last part of your question, I don't feel it was even justified in asking.
Reply:You make a good point. Not all Catholics are child molesters. Not all Protestants are killers.
HOWEVER, although I think Catholicism is a cool religion, in light of the recent political situation, you have to realize when you donate it is contributing to paying off legal fees for those priests. You are supporting that financially. It doesn't mean your religion is bad, just like Bush in office doesn't make our whole country bad. You see what I mean?
Reply:I don't care if they call themselves "protestants" or whatever. I just hope that the law comes down on them in a way that they find most unbearable.
Reply:This took place in Ireland. The original reason for this Protestant/Catholic hatred there has long since been forgotten, or at least so mixed up in politics that neither side knows why they hate the other-they just do. The real problem now is extreme ignorance and pride. If that can be overcome-then there would be hope.
It is very easy to understand why many people hate the catholic church to the very bottom of their souls. What is not understandable is why someone would defend the catholic church. That is beyond stupidity. Only in Ireland, with the Church of England entangled in the roots of this bitterness does this become complicated.
Flush the whole mess down the drain. We need neither side.
Reply:And who do you think started the Spanish inquistion. or turned thier heads while the Nazi's burned the Jews. Who do you think Shin Finn is? Do you think thier Protesants. Do you have any idea how many people they"ve murdered in the last 100 years. Who sacked Jeruselam, and murdered the jews, and muslims? They put men women and children on pikes. Which means they shoved spears up their butts, and let die a slow painful death. "Catholic" did this.
STUPID, STUPID QUESTION!
It's ignorant uneducated moron's that call themselves God's chosen that cause all the hate in this world, and the other moron's that beleive the crap that spews from their mouth's.It has nothing to do with,Father,Lord Almighty,Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh, or what ever you choose to God.
Grow up! Get you $#%% history book out and Brush up!
Reply:Excuse me??that's in Ireland....i have tried for years to really figure out the whole mess over there......it is nothing that I have ever heard of in church....
Reply:You have made a good argument. As you stated, you cannot let the actions of the few solly the good name of the many.
They were a gang...in Ireland. Any group of micreants who are roaming the streets with nothing better to do, have a propensity to be deviant. Your article failed to mention that the young Catholic man was singled out because he was Catholic. It might be a coincidence or it might not be. Perhaps the youths just went after the first young man they came across. A Protestant woman even tried to stop the group.
Labeling all Protestants hateful just because of the actions of a few is wrong, and I am glad that you have emphasized that. Too often, society is quick to condemn a group just because of a few extremists (in any religion or denomination).
Reply:According to the Bible, God does not like religion. Jesus wants people to have a relationship with Him, not be forced to love Him through tradition.
Rom 1:28- And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting
According to Rom 1:28, God loves everyone and gives peolpe the right to love Him back or not.
Religion is man made. It is what confuses some people into thinking their "religion" is right while others is wrong.
According to the Bible, it is not the job of Christians to convert the world, but to preach the truth. People should respect other peoples beliefs.
God lets people choose, but religion(tradition) just goes on and confuses the minds of some people.
We can only pray for the attackers and the peope who were attacked.
Rom 1:29 %26amp; 30- being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deciet, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents
Rom: 1:28-30 shows that when people choose not to serve God full heartedly, He actually gives them up to a debased mind. God really doesn't want to let peolpe go, but He still lets us choose. Once a person decides not to truly serve the Lord He lets them go, which leaves room for other spirits, evil spirits. Limiting God to help change a person through either too little or no faith, causes some people to act wrongfuly without questioning the Holy Spirit first(which guides us).
Reply:For the same reason that the Sunnis and Shiites kill each other. For the same reason the Christians burned the pagans. For the same reason the Muslims hate the Jews. Do you get the idea? I really hope that it's self explanatory that supposed religions of peace hate anyone who is even slightly different than themselves
Reply:'It's like I've often said, the Church is full of sinners. If everyone was perfect, we would not need the Church.'
What matters is Church doctrine, for without sound doctrine, how can one be lead into all Truth? Make Christian doctrine relativistic and you eliminate any power the Church had to aid people in their journey to salvation.
Reply:Okay. I don't know any Protestants that would dare hurt anyone, especially because they were Roman Catholic. I may be coming into something that started with someone else, but I read all of what you posted. Will a Roman Catholic read all of what I posted just to be fair?
When the reformed religion began to diffuse the Gospel light throughout Europe, Pope Innocent III entertained great fear for the Romish Church. He accordingly instituted a number of inquisitors, or persons who were to make inquiry after, apprehend, and punish, heretics, as the reformed were called by the papists.
At the head of these inquisitors was one Dominic, who had been canonized by the pope, in order to render his authority the more respectable. Dominic, and the other inquisitors, spread themselves into various Roman Catholic countries, and treated the Protestants with the utmost severity. In process of time, the pope, not finding these roving inquisitors so useful as he had imagined, resolved upon the establishment of fixed and regular courts of Inquisition. After the order for these regular courts, the first office of Inquisition was established in the city of Toulouse, and Dominic became the first regular inquisitor, as he had before been the first roving inquisitor.
The following is an account of an auto da fe, performed at Madrid in the year 1682.
The officers of the Inquisition, preceded by trumpets, kettledrums, and their banner, marched on the thirtieth of May, in cavalcade, to the palace of the great square, where they declared by proclamation, that, on the thirtieth of June, the sentence of the prisoners would be put in execution.
Of these prisoners, twenty men and women, with one renegade Mahometan, were ordered to be burned; fifty Jews and Jewesses, having never before been imprisoned, and repenting of their crimes, were sentenced to a long confinement, and to wear a yellow cap. The whole court of Spain was present on this occasion. The grand inquisitor's chair was placed in a sort of tribunal far above that of the king.
Among those who were to suffer, was a young Jewess of exquisite beauty, and but seventeen years of age. Being on the same side of the scaffold where the queen was seated, she addressed her, in hopes of obtaining a pardon, in the following pathetic speech: "Great queen, will not your royal presence be of some service to me in my miserable condition? Have regard to my youth; and, oh! consider, that I am about to die for professing a religion imbibed from my earliest infancy!" Her majesty seemed greatly to pity her distress, but turned away her eyes, as she did not dare to speak a word in behalf of a person who had been declared a heretic.
Now Mass began, in the midst of which the priest came from the altar, placed himself near the scaffold, and seated himself in a chair prepared for that purpose.
The chief inquisitor then descended from the amphitheater, dressed in his cope, and having a miter on his head. After having bowed to the altar, he advanced towards the king's balcony, and went up to it, attended by some of his officers, carrying a cross and the Gospels, with a book containing the oath by which the kings of Spain oblige themselves to protect the Catholic faith, to extirpate heretics, and to support with all their power and force the prosecutions and decrees of the Inquisition: a like oath was administered to the counsellors and whole assembly. The Mass was begun about twelve at noon, and did not end until nine in the evening, being protracted by a proclamation of the sentence of the several criminals, which were already separately rehearsed aloud one after the other.
After this followed the burnings of the twenty-one men and women, whose intrepidity in suffering that horrid death was truly astonishing. The king's near situation to the criminals rendered their dying groans very audible to him; he could not, however, be absent from this dreadful scene, as it is esteemed a religious one; and his coronation oath obliged him to give a sanction by his presence to all the acts of the tribunal.
What we have already said may be applied to inquisitions in general, as well as to that of Spain in particular. The Inquisition belonging to Portugal is exactly upon a similar plan to that of Spain, having been instituted much about the same time, and put under the same regulations. The inquisitors allow the torture to be used only three times, but during those times it is so severely inflicted, that the prisoner either dies under it, or continues always after a cripple, and suffers the severest pains upon every change of weather. We shall give an ample description of the severe torments occasioned by the torture, from the account of one who suffered it the three respective times, but happily survived the cruelties he underwent.
At the first time of torturing, six executioners entered, stripped him naked to his drawers, and laid him upon his back on a kind of stand, elevated a few feet from the floor. The operation commenced by putting an iron collar round his neck, and a ring to each foot, which fastened him to the stand. His limbs being thus stretched out, they wound two ropes round each thigh; which ropes being passed under the scaffold, through holes made for that purpose, were all drawn tight at the same instant of time, by four of the men, on a given signal.
It is easy to conceive that the pains which immediately succeeded were intolerable; the ropes, which were of a small size, cut through the prisoner's flesh to the bone, making the blood to gush out at eight different places thus bound at a time. As the prisoner persisted in not making any confession of what the inquisitors required, the ropes were drawn in this manner four times successively.
The manner of inflicting the second torture was as follows: they forced his arms backwards so that the palms of his hands were turned outward behind him; when, by means of a rope that fastened them together at the wrists, and which was turned by an engine, they drew them by degrees nearer each other, in such a manner that the back of each hand touched, and stood exactly parallel to each other. In consequence of this violent contortion, both his shoulders became dislocated, and a considerable quantity of blood issued from his mouth. This torture was repeated thrice; after which he was again taken to the dungeon, and the surgeon set the dislocated bones.
Two months after the second torture, the prisoner being a little recovered, was again ordered to the torture room, and there, for the last time, made to undergo another kind of punishment, which was inflicted twice without any intermission. The executioners fastened a thick iron chain round his body, which crossing at the breast, terminated at the wrists. They then placed him with his back against a thick board, at each extremity whereof was a pulley, through which there ran a rope that caught the end of the chain at his wrists. The executioner then, stretching the end of his rope by means of a roller, placed at a distance behind him, pressed or bruised his stomach in proportion as the ends of the chains were drawn tighter. They tortured him in this manner to such a degree, that his wrists, as well as his shoulders, were quite dislocated. They were, however, soon set by the surgeons; but the barbarians, not yet satisfied with this species of cruelty, made him immediately undergo the like torture a second time, which he sustained (though, if possible, attended with keener pains,) with equal constancy and resolution. After this, he was again remanded to the dungeon, attended by the surgeon to dress his bruises and adjust the part dislocated, and here he continued until their auto da fe, or jail delivery, when he was discharged, crippled and diseased for life.
- Fox's Book of Martyrs
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